Gotta Have Faith
Scott asks Dave how he came to his faith since the listener is an atheist. Dave explains his thoughts on the subjects.
QUESTION: Scott asks Dave how he came to his faith since the listener is an atheist. Dave explains his thoughts on the subjects.
ANSWER: I didn’t grow up in a situation where I was an active Christian or anything like that. I didn’t grow up in church, so to speak. In the sense of becoming a Christian, that happened as an adult.
One of the things, on a real basic level, was that I started just realizing by intelligent observation that order does not come from chaos. That’s a physics principle. Chaos comes from order. My friend, Rabbi Lapin, who is an Orthodox Jewish rabbi, obviously a different but similar faith, has a great illustration of that.
Take a jar of marbles. Within that jar is a perfect layer of blue marbles about a third of the way through the jar, and the rest of them are white. If you were to shake that jar and mix the marbles all up, you could shake that jar an infinite number of times and the marbles would never line up in a perfect layer again. There is no amount of shakes that would cause order to come from chaos. Order does not come from chaos.
An observation of statistical probabilities and an almost intellectual observation says that things like the Rocky Mountains and the Hubbard Glacier, watching the birth of my child, the intricacies of the human body, are infinitely complicated to the point that we may never grasp them all; that level of order required a Creator in my mind.
I couldn’t get to “it accidentally happened” any more than I thought those marbles would accidentally line back up.
Just observing the beauty of nature—diving in the Caribbean, snow skiing in the Rockies—you see these kinds of things, and you think these things just suddenly appeared out of chaos. That’s not a rational thought. It’s a poor set of logic. That was a very basic and rudimentary way that I started to approach my faith at first.
Stand there and watch the birth of your children and watch the miracle of life happen, and think about all the different elements of the birth of a child. They come out of the womb and just suddenly start breathing. If you’ve ever done any study of anatomy, there’s no way that level of order came as an accidental thing. That’s a rudimentary place where I started my faith.
Later I started understanding my need for a Savior, because I started understanding that we all have the ability to screw up to no end. None of us are holy. Some of us are unholier than others, that’s for sure.
Then I started understanding the mystical and the beautiful part of a spiritual walk and understanding the need for a Savior. That’s when I accepted Christ. Could I ever consider the possibility that there is no God? I guess we all do. People who say they have pure faith really are not honest because there are times that anybody wonders. So I guess yes, I consider that possibility.
The longer I’ve walked this earth with the paradigm of observing God in a lot of different things and in a lot of different ways, the less that possibility is there in my mind. In other words, the more mature my faith has become, the more sure I am. Not in an arrogant way, but in a very confident way. A lot of things have built my faith over the years.
I guess we all consider the possibility that there is no God; for me, it happens less and less every day the more I observe and see Him in things. I see Him in my children’s smiles. I see Him in tumors that just disappear sometimes with no explanation. I see Him in those things, and I’m very comfortable in that. But I’m also comfortable if you’re not. We can still be friends.