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3 Steps To Change The Nation's Future

We are at a crucial time in our country's financial history. We need everyone's help! Here are 3 steps you can take that will change our nation's future:

1) Pray for your leaders in Washington. Pray for them to resist a spirit of FEAR and to embrace WISDOM. Even if you don't like them or agree with them, pray for them and tell them you are praying for them. There is a spirit over this problem that must be broken. Also, most of the media personalities are afraid as well and that is affecting their reporting. Pray for fear to be removed from them; they are making this worse.

2) Send The Common Sense Fix to your Senators and representatives, and tell them how you expect them to vote, and that if they put this nation in $700 billion of debt, that you will vote them out. Whichever presidential candidate or political party that champions this plan from their leadership down will likely become the next president. That is because this plan fixes the crisis while going along with the wishes of the vast majority of Americans.

3) Send a link to this page to everyone in your address book and tell them to urgently follow these three steps TODAY.

Comments
Today I read that Congressman Neil Abercrombie
of Hawaii listened to what the Hawaiian people
had to say and this swayed his vote against the
$700 billion bail-out. It's refreshing to see
our elected officials listening.
# Posted by Sarah | 9/30/08 10:23 AM
I don't know why this is so hard for me, but I've been looking for a website that will list how EACH person voted on ANY issue in the Senate and the House. Anyone out there have suggestions
# Posted by Ruth | 9/30/08 10:47 AM
THANK YOU DAVE RAMSEY!!
For not engaging in scare tactics, and for giving us the tools we need to take action. I trust your opinions greatly and have already sent this to my local representatives. THANK YOU!!
# Posted by Jennifer moore | 9/30/08 10:55 AM
RUTH, Click http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll674.xml
and it will show you by clicking on the answer you would like to investigate.
# Posted by Jennifer M | 9/30/08 10:56 AM
That you for this posting! I just copied it to the forum for everyone in Elk Grove, California - now being seen by 12,679 members!
# Posted by Shanna | 9/30/08 11:00 AM
I am forwarding this to everyone I know...glad to see someone come to the table with another option!
# Posted by Joe | 9/30/08 11:02 AM
Thanks, Jennifer!! Much appreciated.
# Posted by Ruth | 9/30/08 11:05 AM
I don't agree. The insurance is a better idea than that proposed by Paulson, but the mark-to-market item won't be effective. Forcing lenders to give sweet deals to failed borrowers is a reward for those who are at least as responsible for the mess as the greedy lenders.
# Posted by Carl | 9/30/08 11:12 AM
Dave,
It was great how you answered those questions on Cavuto last night! Why did they even bother to have the otheres on there? And, TAX WRITE OFFS?! What was that guy thinking!? He obviously doesn't watch Dave Ramsey!!!
Thank you for your steady and encouraging words to us all. This country needs more people like you to lead us into the future! You're a blessing!
# Posted by Lenore | 9/30/08 11:21 AM
Here is the list of how representatives voted
on the bill.
ALABAMA
Democrats - Cramer, Y; Davis, Y.
Republicans - Aderholt, N; Bachus, Y; Bonner, Y; Everett, Y; Rogers, Y.

ALASKA
Republicans - Young, N.

ARIZONA
Democrats - Giffords, N; Grijalva, N; Mitchell, N; Pastor, N.
Republicans - Flake, N; Franks, N; Renzi, N; Shadegg, N.

ARKANSAS
Democrats - Berry, Y; Ross, Y; Snyder, Y.
Republicans - Boozman, Y.

CALIFORNIA
Democrats - Baca, N; Becerra, N; Berman, Y; Capps, Y; Cardoza, Y; Costa, Y; Davis, Y; Eshoo, Y; Farr, Y; Filner, N; Harman, Y; Honda, Y; Lee, N; Lofgren, Zoe, Y; Matsui, Y; McNerney, Y; Miller, George, Y; Napolitano, N; Pelosi, Y; Richardson, Y; Roybal-Allard, N; Sanchez, Linda T., N; Sanchez, Loretta, N; Schiff, N; Sherman, N; Solis, N; Speier, Y; Stark, N; Tauscher, Y; Thompson, N; Waters, Y; Watson, N; Waxman, Y; Woolsey, N.
Republicans - Bilbray, N; Bono Mack, Y; Calvert, Y; Campbell, Y; Doolittle, N; Dreier, Y; Gallegly, N; Herger, Y; Hunter, N; Issa, N; Lewis, Y; Lungren, Daniel E., Y; McCarthy, N; McKeon, Y; Miller, Gary, Y; Nunes, N; Radanovich, Y; Rohrabacher, N; Royce, N.

COLORADO
Democrats - DeGette, Y; Perlmutter, Y; Salazar, N; Udall, N.
Republicans - Lamborn, N; Musgrave, N; Tancredo, Y.

CONNECTICUT
Democrats - Courtney, N; DeLauro, Y; Larson, Y; Murphy, Y.
Republicans - Shays, Y.

DELAWARE
Republicans - Castle, Y.

FLORIDA
Democrats - Boyd, Y; Brown, Corrine, Y; Castor, N; Hastings, Y; Klein, Y; Mahoney, Y; Meek, Y; Wasserman Schultz, Y; Wexler, Y.
Republicans - Bilirakis, N; Brown-Waite, Ginny, N; Buchanan, N; Crenshaw, Y; Diaz-Balart, L., N; Diaz-Balart, M., N; Feeney, N; Keller, N; Mack, N; Mica, N; Miller, N; Putnam, Y; Ros-Lehtinen, N; Stearns, N; Weldon, Y; Young, N.

GEORGIA
Democrats - Barrow, N; Bishop, Y; Johnson, N; Lewis, N; Marshall, Y; Scott, N.
Republicans - Broun, N; Deal, N; Gingrey, N; Kingston, N; Linder, N; Price, N; Westmoreland, N.

HAWAII
Democrats - Abercrombie, N; Hirono, N.

IDAHO
Republicans - Sali, N; Simpson, Y.

ILLINOIS
Democrats - Bean, Y; Costello, N; Davis, Y; Emanuel, Y; Foster, Y; Gutierrez, Y; Hare, Y; Jackson, N; Lipinski, N; Rush, N; Schakowsky, Y.
Republicans - Biggert, N; Johnson, N; Kirk, Y; LaHood, Y; Manzullo, N; Roskam, N; Shimkus, N; Weller, X.

INDIANA
Democrats - Carson, N; Donnelly, Y; Ellsworth, Y; Hill, N; Visclosky, N.
Republicans - Burton, N; Buyer, N; Pence, N; Souder, Y.

IOWA
Democrats - Boswell, Y; Braley, N; Loebsack, Y.
Republicans - King, N; Latham, N.

KANSAS
Democrats - Boyda, N; Moore, Y.
Republicans - Moran, N; Tiahrt, N.

KENTUCKY
Democrats - Chandler, N; Yarmuth, N.
Republicans - Davis, N; Lewis, Y; Rogers, Y; Whitfield, N.

LOUISIANA
Democrats - Cazayoux, N; Jefferson, N; Melancon, Y.
Republicans - Alexander, N; Boustany, N; McCrery, Y; Scalise, N.

MAINE
Democrats - Allen, Y; Michaud, N.

MARYLAND
Democrats - Cummings, N; Edwards, N; Hoyer, Y; Ruppersberger, Y; Sarbanes, Y; Van Hollen, Y.
Republicans - Bartlett, N; Gilchrest, Y.

MASSACHUSETTS
Democrats - Capuano, Y; Delahunt, N; Frank, Y; Lynch, N; Markey, Y; McGovern, Y; Neal, Y; Olver, Y; Tierney, N; Tsongas, Y.

MICHIGAN
Democrats - Conyers, N; Dingell, Y; Kildee, Y; Kilpatrick, N; Levin, Y; Stupak, N.
Republicans - Camp, Y; Ehlers, Y; Hoekstra, N; Knollenberg, N; McCotter, N; Miller, N; Rogers, N; Upton, Y; Walberg, N.

MINNESOTA
Democrats - Ellison, Y; McCollum, Y; Oberstar, Y; Peterson, N; Walz, N.
Republicans - Bachmann, N; Kline, Y; Ramstad, N.

MISSISSIPPI
Democrats - Childers, N; Taylor, N; Thompson, N.
Republicans - Pickering, Y.

MISSOURI
Democrats - Carnahan, Y; Clay, N; Cleaver, N; Skelton, Y.
Republicans - Akin, N; Blunt, Y; Emerson, Y; Graves, N; Hulshof, N.

MONTANA
Republicans - Rehberg, N.

NEBRASKA
Republicans - Fortenberry, N; Smith, N; Terry, N.

NEVADA
Democrats - Berkley, N.
Republicans - Heller, N; Porter, Y.

NEW HAMPSHIRE
Democrats - Hodes, N; Shea-Porter, N.

NEW JERSEY
Democrats - Andrews, Y; Holt, Y; Pallone, Y; Pascrell, N; Payne, N; Rothman, N; Sires, Y.
Republicans - Ferguson, Y; Frelinghuysen, N; Garrett, N; LoBiondo, N; Saxton, Y; Smith, N.

NEW MEXICO
Democrats - Udall, N.
Republicans - Pearce, N; Wilson, Y.

NEW YORK
Democrats - Ackerman, Y; Arcuri, Y; Bishop, Y; Clarke, Y; Crowley, Y; Engel, Y; Gillibrand, N; Hall, Y; Higgins, Y; Hinchey, N; Israel, Y; Lowey, Y; Maloney, Y; McCarthy, Y; McNulty, Y; Meeks, Y; Nadler, Y; Rangel, Y; Serrano, N; Slaughter, Y; Towns, Y; Velazquez, Y; Weiner, Y.
Republicans - Fossella, Y; King, Y; Kuhl, N; McHugh, Y; Reynolds, Y; Walsh, Y.

NORTH CAROLINA
Democrats - Butterfield, N; Etheridge, Y; McIntyre, N; Miller, Y; Price, Y; Shuler, N; Watt, Y.
Republicans - Coble, N; Foxx, N; Hayes, N; Jones, N; McHenry, N; Myrick, N.

NORTH DAKOTA
Democrats - Pomeroy, Y.

OHIO
Democrats - Kaptur, N; Kucinich, N; Ryan, Y; Space, Y; Sutton, N; Wilson, Y.
Republicans - Boehner, Y; Chabot, N; Hobson, Y; Jordan, N; LaTourette, N; Latta, N; Pryce, Y; Regula, Y; Schmidt, N; Tiberi, N; Turner, N.

OKLAHOMA
Democrats - Boren, Y.
Republicans - Cole, Y; Fallin, N; Lucas, N; Sullivan, N.

OREGON
Democrats - Blumenauer, N; DeFazio, N; Hooley, Y; Wu, N.
Republicans - Walden, Y.

PENNSYLVANIA
Democrats - Altmire, N; Brady, Y; Carney, N; Doyle, Y; Fattah, Y; Holden, N; Kanjorski, Y; Murphy, Patrick, Y; Murtha, Y; Schwartz, Y; Sestak, Y.
Republicans - Dent, N; English, N; Gerlach, N; Murphy, Tim, N; Peterson, Y; Pitts, N; Platts, N; Shuster, N.

RHODE ISLAND
Democrats - Kennedy, Y; Langevin, Y.

SOUTH CAROLINA
Democrats - Clyburn, Y; Spratt, Y.
Republicans - Barrett, N; Brown, Y; Inglis, Y; Wilson, Y.

SOUTH DAKOTA
Democrats - Herseth Sandlin, N.

TENNESSEE
Democrats - Cohen, Y; Cooper, Y; Davis, Lincoln, N; Gordon, Y; Tanner, Y.
Republicans - Blackburn, N; Davis, David, N; Duncan, N; Wamp, N.

TEXAS
Democrats - Cuellar, N; Doggett, N; Edwards, Y; Gonzalez, Y; Green, Al, N; Green, Gene, N; Hinojosa, Y; Jackson-Lee, N; Johnson, E. B., Y; Lampson, N; Ortiz, N; Reyes, Y; Rodriguez, N.
Republicans - Barton, N; Brady, Y; Burgess, N; Carter, N; Conaway, N; Culberson, N; Gohmert, N; Granger, Y; Hall, N; Hensarling, N; Johnson, Sam, N; Marchant, N; McCaul, N; Neugebauer, N; Paul, N; Poe, N; Sessions, Y; Smith, Y; Thornberry, N.

UTAH
Democrats - Matheson, N.
Republicans - Bishop, N; Cannon, Y.

VERMONT
Democrats - Welch, N.

VIRGINIA
Democrats - Boucher, Y; Moran, Y; Scott, N.
Republicans - Cantor, Y; Davis, Tom, Y; Drake, N; Forbes, N; Goode, N; Goodlatte, N; Wittman, N; Wolf, Y.

WASHINGTON
Democrats - Baird, Y; Dicks, Y; Inslee, N; Larsen, Y; McDermott, Y; Smith, Y.
Republicans - Hastings, N; McMorris Rodgers, N; Reichert, N.

WEST VIRGINIA
Democrats - Mollohan, Y; Rahall, Y.
Republicans - Capito, N.

WISCONSIN
Democrats - Baldwin, Y; Kagen, N; Kind, Y; Moore, Y; Obey, Y.
Republicans - Petri, N; Ryan, Y; Sensenbrenner, N.

WYOMING
Republicans - Cubin, Y.
# Posted by Jim Anderson | 9/30/08 11:57 AM
If you need an automated form to send to your
representative that is quick and easy. Go to
http://www.downsizedc.org/etp/campaigns/100
# Posted by Jim Anderson | 9/30/08 12:01 PM
Dave
We have been a fan of yours (paid for both our childrens and families to attend your courses) for years and have accepted the fact that you are a Republican. However, you were generally fair. But your criticism of Nancy Pelosi and the silliness of 12 Republicans blaming their votes on her comments is beyond the pale. Since when does a competent legislator- Democrat or Republican - cast a serious vote based on being slightly offended by a little ole lady? Sounds like something coming from windbags Limbaugh and Hannity!You're smarter than that and your listeners, both Democrat and Republican, deserve better in the future.
# Posted by Don | 9/30/08 1:00 PM
E-mails sent - thanks Dave!

@Don: Why no chastizement of Pelosi for immature politics??
# Posted by jess | 9/30/08 1:26 PM
@jess:

Don doesn't do that with Pelosi probably becos
she is not worth it.
# Posted by Adi | 9/30/08 1:35 PM
Dave,

Way to go. Keep up the great work!
# Posted by Jonathan | 9/30/08 2:15 PM
Good plan. A couple changes needed:      

   I.a.1.   A few words to change --
      Rewrite any mortgage that is more than three months… Change to:
      Rewrite all mortgages that are more than three months…

   This will keep the companies from "cherry picking".   


   III.   One sentence to change --
      Remove the capital gains tax completely.
Change to:
      Eliminate the capital gains tax of personal residences completely for two years.

   This change would help all political parties agree with "The Common Sense Fix".
# Posted by Thomas H. Bonhiver, CPA | 9/30/08 3:04 PM
To find out how elected officials voted:
http://www.votesmart.org/official_five_categories....
# Posted by Ernest Murphy | 9/30/08 3:23 PM
So we should be okay with a government that comes out and tells us this bill needs to be passed right NOW without any checks and balances in place? Does anyone have any idea why a government would come out and make such an unbelievable request? Why are they trying to shove this down the throat of every American? Could it be that Paulson wants to take care of his own base? Paulson who is an ex Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Goldman Sachs with ties to AIG and other recently taken over companies. Is the man pulling the strings. It seems that the hurry to get this bill approved is more about not finding out certain details about Paulson’s past and his affiliations to big business than it is about helping our country. This administration has never been up front with the American people so why would they start now. Americans should be in an UPROAR over what is going on right now!
# Posted by Mojoe | 9/30/08 6:28 PM
Is there a way to lower interest rates on loans that were made to first-time home owners or to people who are living in their primary home? Is it possible to lower interest rates and/or taxes on monthly mortgage payments? Lowering these would allow people to continue paying into their loans. Could the government loan the banks who stay in business? Could the government loan the American people whose banks went out of business? This way, people could stay in their homes, continue paying their loans, and the market would stabilize.
# Posted by cyndi | 9/30/08 9:46 PM
Dave, this would be the first time I have disagreed with you and your perspective on the bailout plan. I actually believe that this article by Chuck Colson has a different perspective that applies to what is going on. http://tinyurl.com/3nz229
# Posted by BobW | 10/1/08 9:10 AM
I can?t take it any more! I have to get some things off my chest about our current political and financial state.
First, I am not an economists or politician but I have learned a lot in my years of owning my own businesses and trying to survive in difficult times.
I am sharing my thoughts with you not to promote any political party but to hopefully inspire those who normally do not vote to get registered by this Saturday and participate in our democratic process. It has been said that all it takes for evil to triumph is for good men and women to do nothing. This is not the time to ?do nothing?. We must have our voices heard loud and clear!
Our Constitution starts out by saying ?We the People??. It is time that we the people started acting like we care about this country. The politicians would have us believe that the Constitution starts with ?The wee people??. Their elitists? attitude toward us and their constant idea that they can run our lives and know better what is good for us has got to stop. There is not one straight talking politician in our government. They tell us that governing is too difficult for us to understand and that we just have to ?trust? them to do what is best for us.
Now our part as the governed has also got to change. We must stop looking to Washington for cures of our ailments. We have accepted the Courts intervention into our lives by allowing them to legislate instead of interpret our laws. This is totally unconstitutional and must be stopped. The politicians are allowing it because they know that if they were to legislate the types of rulings that are coming through our courts then they would not be re-elected. So they turn their backs on the Constitution all the while trampling on our individual rights.

If the Congress was a Board of Directors in charge of a corporation and you were a stock holder would you allow them to make the kinds of decisions they are making or would you call for their resignation?

The role of politician was never intended to be a career. It was designed for service, not self-service, to the public. I know what would cure this aspect of politics but I also know that it will never happen because the ones it would affect are the ones who would have to vote for it ? TERM LIMITATIONS!
Here is a truth that stands today ? ?The borrower is servant to the lender.? We need to have this drilled into our collective heads over and over. As I have learned over the years, you can not borrow your way out of debt. Why is it that we don?t expect the same action from the government that we have to implement in our own lives just to survive? No, we say well the government will help us through this crisis. It is high time that we woke up to the reality that WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT! The government earns no money but we have given them the power to confiscate money from our earnings. Programs that are funded by the government are paid for from our earnings. There is saying, ?When you find yourself in a hole ?STOP DIGGING!? Fiscal restraint is called for, not more ?government funding?.

That brings me to my final thought. These bailouts are not good for America. These bailouts fly in the face of capitalism and move us closer to nationalism. I am so concerned about the issues facing our nation that I sat down this morning and read all 110 pages of the proposed ?Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008.? (www.speaker.gov). The first rule of getting someone to buy into an idea is to use the fear of loss. The fear of loss is more powerful than the potential for gain. So our politicians, along with the media, have set out on a campaign to invoke fear in each American and then say that they have a plan for relieving our fear. And of course we like sheep are led to the slaughter without opening our mouths. Well it is time to open our collective mouths and speak loudly and clearly. Here are some things I found interesting in this latest 700 TRILLION DOLLAR bailout.
The politicians knew that this was going to be a problem over 2 years ago but chose to do nothing preemptive to avert the situation. Why? Because they saw an opportunity to grab more power for themselves at our expense if the system failed and they could use fear to get us to blindly accept their solution. No rational person believes that the politicians have our interest at heart in this bailout. They see an opportunity to grow government by trillions of dollars through this program. The name the politicians have given this program is the ?Troubled Asset Relief Program? or ?TARP?. I think this is a great name because, just as a tarp is used to cover-up things, the politicians are covering-up their real motives in voting for this program.
I did a little research into the ?mortgage crisis? and found that only 2.75% of mortgages are in some stage of the foreclosure process. I also found that there is 10.5 TRILLION DOLLARS in mortgage debt. That means that if all properties in foreclosure are NEVER sold to anyone for any amount of money then the amount of bailout would only be 288 BILLION DOLLLARS. Why are we committing to 700 BILLION DOLLARS?

If this deal is so good for the taxpayer why not let the private sector purchase the underlying assets and benefit directly from the future gains. Why do we need a middle man? Here are exact words from the plan:
(underlining added)
Section 113 Authority, Paragraph 2

(A) ?Hold the assets to maturity for resale for and until such time as the Secretary determines that the market is optimal for selling such assets, in order to maximize the value for taxpayers, and

(B) Sell such assets at a price that the Secretary determines, based on available financial analysis, will maximize return on investment for the Federal government.?

Is it just me or does it seem to you that this deal is about ?holding? the assets for the taxpayer but ?selling? the assets for the benefit of the Federal government. Their intention is not to return the profit to you and I as taxpayers but to use the profits to grow government. The plan gives Congress the power to increase our federal debt to $11,315,000,000,000 DOLLARS. That?s right it is TRILLION! Also in Section 113 Paragraph 3 they call for the private sector to be involved. Here are the exact words-

?Private Sector Participation ? The Secretary shall encourage the private sector to participate in purchases of troubled assets, and to invest in financial institutions, consistent with the provisions of this section.?
In my humble estimation this proves that this is a power grab and not a move to benefit the taxpayer. If the private sector is going to be involved why not just let the private sector (capitalism) operate and leave the government out.
The banking and mortgage industry must bare some consequence for the loans they made. In my simple mind as a business man, if I had a mortgage holder that could not pay what they agreed to in the original loan I would look to renegotiate the loan before I would foreclose. My logic for this is that the person who is defaulting is going to have to live somewhere and pay somebody something for their housing so why not work with them and keep them in their home. But there I go being logical again. I guess it really is too complicated for me so please Mr. Government help me understand what I should do.
BOTTOM LINE ? VOTE!, VOTE!, VOTE!
# Posted by Ken Earnhardt | 10/1/08 10:38 AM
A government for the people,by the people,was it just a dream ?
# Posted by painter | 10/1/08 2:40 PM
Common Sense: When a parent needs money,
they go to their rich children to bail them
out not all their grandchildren. Why don't
we go to the states and ask them to contribute
their budget surpluses? Texas has a $10 bill.
surplus the country needs to borrow now.
# Posted by T Pantusa | 10/1/08 2:45 PM
Dave-

Thanks for ignoring the fear tactics of the Congress and the media. I think your plan is great. I sent it with the comment that I am a small businessman. If I do stupid stuff and my business is in trouble, nobody will bail me out. Why should I bail out the big boys who have done stupid stuff?

Glenn
# Posted by Glenn Maclin | 10/1/08 2:46 PM
I disagree with the 3rd clause that eliminating the capital gains tax will not cost the taxpayer. The capital gains tax is revenue to pay our bills (federal budget and deficit). How can Dave recommend that we (the US gov/taxpayers) take on additional risk (insurance or bailout), and then remove one source of income - you can't balance the books by decreasing income. We capitalists/taxpayers need to recognize that we will have to increase revenue - we are going to have to increase taxes somewhere. We can't live in both candidates' promise (lies?) to cut taxes while the deficit keeps growing - There isn't enough pork and fat in the budget to cut and balance the budget - so I believe we have to raise revenue to cover out bills over the next couple of decades. I don't believe that our economy will grow fast enough to increase revenue over time with out a tax increase - sadly... That is just good conservative financial planning, as much as I hate what it will cost me.
# Posted by Mike Brown | 10/1/08 2:47 PM
Thank you Dave! I have been struggling for several days with exactly what I wanted to say to my Congressmen. This bailout crisis is very complicated, and I felt like I had many concerns, but no viable solutions. Thank you for being a voice of reason, and for encouraging solutions and not panic. My husband and I have contacted our Senators and Representative via email and telephone to advocate this Common Sense Fix. We appreciate you!
# Posted by Barbara Paul | 10/1/08 2:52 PM
There is a huge point being missed here. What is being called a "Subprime Bond/Mortgage" in "The Common Sense Fix" -- is in reality a toxic OTC (Over The Counter - non regulated and non standard) derivative product based on mortgages living way down at the bottom of a 20 foot equation. For that matter, its also not just mortgages - its debt of all types (credit card etc).

You can suspend honesty in accounting rules all you want and wait 2 years, 10 years, or 50 years -- these securities will continue to be worth pennies on the dollar.

I agree that time is needed to figure things out -- but the only thing I can think of is to spend thousands of work-hours and totally unravel the underlying debt items and repackage them as a different type of security backed by the govt.. Even then -- because these securities are highly leveraged in their current form -- the end result will still be pennies on the dollar.
# Posted by Paul | 10/1/08 2:59 PM
I have taken a look at the people and how they voted. I called and/or emailed each one from my state of TN. I either thanked them or requested that they reconsider.\Thank you Dave for helping to change my life!
# Posted by Beth Bowen | 10/1/08 3:07 PM
Eliminating the capital gains tax DOES cost the taxpayer. The capital gains tax generated $122 billion in revenue in 2007. How is that lost revenue going to be replaced?
# Posted by Preston | 10/1/08 3:07 PM
I appreciate your honesty. I am very frustrated by the fact that some in government think it is ok to rewardbad behavior. I want to be bailed out should I ever get fired from my current job. I would like a million dollars for the work that I do currently. Fire me and pay me to leave for a miserable job done, how great is that theory? Aslo can they pay me the difference of what my mom's house was worth two years ago compared to today if it sells soon? I apreciate your hard work and your honesty and please keep up the good work! I have sent many emails and will continue to do so!!
# Posted by Cheryl | 10/1/08 3:08 PM
What are the real #s of people who do not support this bailout? I hear numbers like 80% and then I hear some reporters saying polling data suggests only about 40% don't support it. None of them like it, but they are saying only 40% don't want to see it happen.
# Posted by Josh | 10/1/08 3:12 PM
Dave,
It was great to hear you on Glenn Beck this morning! I had been feeling confused with his saying we have
to get ready for a depression and your saying you think things are going to be okay. I'm glad you met
together to share with the American public!
# Posted by Susan | 10/1/08 3:12 PM
Dave, this is a great proposal with one modification. I.B.1 should read: "Rewrite all subprime mortgages to a fixed rate 6% mortgage".
This will
1) Eliminate the remaining sub-prime mortgages from causing an additonal crisis next year
2) Not punish the people who are acting responsible. The current proposal only provides financial relief to the individuals who are not paying their sub-prime mortgage, while those who are making payments on outrageous interest rates get left behind.
# Posted by dillon-bert | 10/1/08 3:13 PM
Great basis for a plan Dave, however I do not believe for one moment that taking
baby steps will correct the problem(s). The bailout plan as it was proposed, is as
much a shot in the dark as anyone elses plan is, including this one. I also firmly
believe and trust in the people that are pulling the strings and those who are
elected and appointed to make decisions in America's best interest. More than one
comment here alleges misconduct and conflict of interest by Paulson. That is
precisely the conspiracy theorist attitude that creates the media frenzy what is our
American media today. Give it a rest, to sit back and expect something to change on it's
own is irresponsible and ridiculous. Furthermore, I am as forgiving as anyone, but to
completely forgive someone because their mortgage payment is 90 days late, catch it
up and lower their APR to 6% is LUDICROUS. Yet again, the midde-class (who actually pay their bills on time) are forced to bail everyone else out.
# Posted by aaron | 10/1/08 3:13 PM
Dave, I agree with most of your plan, except one point.

Your plan reduces all loans that have been delinquent for 3 months to 6% interest rate. It is designed to help borrowers who have been lured into accepting loans that they can't repay. But remember, the lender is not the only one to blame. The borrower is ultimately responsible for their inability to repay a loan, particularly one that they should have never agreed with in the first place.

Your plan rewards borrowers who default, but give nothing to those who diligently pay on time or ahead of time.

There are plenty of people who are barely making ends meet but hold true to their values, that they should repay their debts first and foremost. Those are the people who end up losing with this plan.

That part of your plan also does nothing to account for people who default simply because they are irresponsible, not because they have no money.

Please rewrite your plan to reduce ALL loans to 6%, or some reasonable value that is available for every borrower, not just those who do not pay on time.
# Posted by Brandon | 10/1/08 3:24 PM
I started emailing politicians when the housing market mess first hit the airwaves. While I feel that it is important to contact the Senators and Representatives of your state, I also think that all of the other players need to hear our voices- even if we can't vote them out. I have been emailing the House Finance Committee, Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank,the President, etc... They all should receive an avalanche of outcries from every corner of the country.
I really appreciate Dave and his team for all they do advance the cause of fiscal soundness in both our personal and national lives.
# Posted by Karen Tweedy | 10/1/08 3:31 PM
Great Direction for the Bailout.
1 item I heard about the Subprimes is that 60 to 70% of the borrowers could have qualified for standard loans but were "steered" into the subprimes because of a higher commision structure and bonuses for the brokers. Anybody else hear that?
# Posted by PGRK | 10/1/08 3:33 PM
i am totally opposed to this massive bailout
being financed entirely by the taxpayers,wall
street and the big banks needs to pony-up with
some money through a program such as dave
ramsey has proposed,its not right to dump all
these bad assets on the taxpayers.
# Posted by phillip johnson | 10/1/08 3:35 PM
Removing mark-to-market is the single worst idea listed. The problem with the banking system is the mysterious nature of the assets. This is why they don't trust each other and won't lend to each other. By removing the mark-to-market the mysterious assets remain in level 3 and the distrust continues.

The plan is simple. Create a market for the assets. Nobody will be the first to step in, so the gov't must be the catalyst.

As far as the insurance idea listed, all I have to say is that gig worked out great for AIG...

Ryan
# Posted by Ryan M | 10/1/08 3:39 PM
I LOST SOME MONEY SEVERAL YEARS AGO ON A
BUSINESS AND NO ONE BAILED ME OUT I SOLD SOME
ASSETS AND LEARNED A HEARD LESSON.
# Posted by EDDIE | 10/1/08 3:39 PM
In reply to Mike Brown's disagreement with the 3rd clause of Dave's plan, I believe he is overlooking the economic boom that would result from eliminating the capital gains tax, especially in the stalled housing market. This would generate far more revenue than the loss from capital gains by putting more people back to work. Even President Kennedy realized you can INCREASE revenue by reducing taxes. Even if the capital gains tax was only suspended for a year or two, it could put our economy back on its feet.
# Posted by Alan Graff | 10/1/08 3:43 PM
I do not want this bailout. The FED just put
$ 680 billion into the market 3 days ago and it did diddly squat. This bailout is only for one reason, to bankrupt the middle class.
# Posted by Viola Perry | 10/1/08 3:44 PM
Dave,
There are people all over my state (Mississippi) who are against this $700 billion bail out and they are contacting our senators and congressman. I have and my statement is don't do it. They will not get my vote ever again if they do.
# Posted by TERRI in mississippi | 10/1/08 3:45 PM
why has no one proposed making the CEOs and brokers who got $200 BILLION in BONUSES, not salary, just in Bonuses, pay it back to bail out Wall Streeet? So the way it looks now, the taxpayer gets to pay for the bailout and these guys get to walk away.
# Posted by Sue | 10/1/08 3:47 PM
God bless you, Dave Ramsey. Just heard you on FOX News. I've already sent e-mails to my representatives and anyone else I could think of including John McCain and Pres Bush. Part of my e-mail reads: If the bailout is approved we will be going down a slippery slope and will be opening a Pandora's Box from which there might be no return. I had the same thought about John McCain before hearing it from you. If he votes for this bill, he will NOT be elected president. People will have no respect for him
# Posted by Genie | 10/1/08 3:48 PM
Thank you for speaking the truth. I have been following you and Neil Cavuto on Fox Business for the last couple of weeks. Indeed - let Wall Street and our corrupt politicians have their hissy fits.
# Posted by Ben | 10/1/08 3:49 PM
One problem is the assumptions that those people who hold subprime loans want to keep the property. I'll bet that most of those are investors who were hoping to flip the homes for a quick profit.
# Posted by Brian | 10/1/08 3:52 PM
thankyou dave,for the truth about this travisty.the lies continue at an outragous pace. our government is still not listening to its people,and the threats continue even as i listen to obamas speech this afternoon, this situation is really sad ...will you please ,just get it over with and run for president in november,it would be a landslide victory.......go dave go
# Posted by joetaxpayer | 10/1/08 4:08 PM
Dave for the most part I like your ideas. I would however add them to re-write the loans to a 50 or 60 yr mtg. This should help the payment be low enough the borrower could stay in their home and then in the future they can decide to refinance or sell.
# Posted by K King | 10/1/08 4:09 PM
Enough already! What part of " We don,t want this to happen " does congress not understand.Stop the scare tactics, listen to the people who put you in office, and move on.The last time we had representation like this, a bunch of guys in Boston held a tea party.
# Posted by Joe Psota | 10/1/08 4:17 PM
illon-bert wrote:Dave, this is a great proposal with one modification. I.B.1 should read: "Rewrite all subprime mortgages to a fixed rate 6% mortgage".
This will
1) Eliminate the remaining sub-prime mortgages from causing an additonal crisis next year
2) Not punish the people who are acting responsible. The current proposal only provides financial relief to the individuals who are not paying their sub-prime mortgage, while those who are making payments on outrageous interest rates get left behind.
# Posted by dillon-bert | 10/1/08 3:13 PM

Sounds like a plan that actually brings Americans along who were victimized by the predatory lenders. What's wrong with that?
# Posted by Zieg-bert | 10/1/08 4:18 PM
Great. Can I get my mortgage re-fi'ed at 6% fixed? Oh wait, that's right, I've never been late on a mortgage payment ever. No reward for me, I guess.
# Posted by Mary | 10/1/08 4:27 PM
Love the Common Sense Plan. It only took about 20 minutes to e-mail both Tennessee Senators, my congressman, Senator Dodd, and all the Republican senators on the Senate banking committee.
# Posted by Eric | 10/1/08 4:27 PM
I bought a house in 2001 - 30-year fixed mortgage at a pretty good rate, but more than 6%. My payments are current because I worked at it.
I was home with 3 kids at the time and we sacrificed in order to stay current
What I'm seeing here in the Common Sense Plan (although most of it's great) is that lug nuts who bought WAY more house than they could afford and have
now become delinquent get not only a "free fix" by rolling their delinquent payments back and a waiver of the pre-payment penalty they were silly
enough (and not forward-thinking enough) to sign BUT they get a better rate than I have.
Wait a minute - I bought what I could afford, worked my tail off to make sure I kept my house and THEY get a "get out of foreclosure free" card?!
I understand that most of them are in over their heads and I DO have empathy for them and their families but why are they who don't pay their
bills, don't budget and don't think ahead suddenly get a bailout? At the risk of sounding angry and selfish: what's in it for me? Why do non-payers
get benefits and bill-payers get the shaft?
# Posted by Meredith | 10/1/08 4:28 PM
I do not agree with this and my disconnect with this is this: The accountability to the individuals who made poor decisions. I don’t even have a 6% mortgage and I have never been late on a payment on anything, let alone my mortgage in my life and I have a FICO in the 800s. Why should they be rewarded? Also, if I were late on a payment, I would be required to pay back or pay fees. To forgive those things on individuals who have clearly done the wrong thing, I feel is very wrong. The folks who are good, will be punished, the ones who are bad are rewarded!
# Posted by Phoenix, AZ | 10/1/08 4:32 PM
Sadly, Senator Hutchison from Texas has voice her support for the Senate version...I will not vote for her again.

Senator Cornyn of Texas has yet to make a statement (unbelievably!) as to how he will vote, even though the vote is within a few hours...c'mon man!

I have contacted both of them by phone and email to indicate how this package is inappropriate. Thankfully, my congressman, Sam Johnson...Texas 3rd, has a brain and voted the NO to the House version.
# Posted by Philip | 10/1/08 4:41 PM
One thing for people to bear in mind. All late fees and legal fees get rolled into the new mortgage, so they are not getting off stock free. This does allow people to keep their homes long enough for the markets to recover so that they can either work their tails off to make it work, or SELL the houses that they can't afford. This also means some houses will come off the market which will help home values and improve odds for those that REALLY do need to move their homes on the market.
# Posted by Eric | 10/1/08 4:42 PM
Zieg-bert, I disagree that the 6% should be limited to subprime mortgages.

According to the U.S. Department of Treasury guidelines issued in 2001, "Subprime borrowers typically have weakened credit histories that include payment delinquencies, and possibly more severe problems such as charge-offs, judgments, and bankruptcies. They may also display reduced repayment capacity as measured by credit scores, debt-to-income ratios, or other criteria that may encompass borrowers with incomplete credit histories."

I believe that the fixed 6% rate should be extended to ALL loans, subprime or not. Rewarding people with a bad or incomplete credit history, while not rewarding those who have a good credit history (meaning that they have proven responsibility) is akin to the current proposal.
# Posted by Brandon | 10/1/08 4:47 PM
Our lackluster representative Lamar Smith voted for it. I emailed on TX senators and left a voice and email message. I will not be voting for anyone who votes for this bailout. Dave is a voice of reason in this insanity.
Karen Early
TX
# Posted by Ted Early | 10/1/08 5:02 PM
I think this is a great plan and makes...well, sense. It kills me that some posts here talk about "What's in it for me? I pay my mortgage on time and I don't get 6%!" We're talking about the ECONOMY of the U.S. here. Let's look at the bigger picture and do what's right for the greater good. Thanks, Dave, for more sound advice!!
# Posted by Farmington, AR | 10/1/08 5:06 PM
I cannot believe the American people are going to allow this administration to shove another rushed , ill conceived and myopic plan down our throats. Wake up People ! Are we really as gullible as the Washington elite think we are with no long term memory ? Politics of the war aside . Do you trust them enough to eat the cookie and follow them down this hole? Please do not take this as a comment on the war , right or wrong, rather on the way it was presented and how itwas planned as it relates to the current situation.
# Posted by Jim Clement | 10/1/08 5:07 PM
i like the first 2 bullet points but I don't understand what eliminating the capital gains tax will do to clean up this mess. Won't that just enable the wild-eyed gamblers to go crazy again? Doesn't it make more sense to talk about small government rather than just focusing on just cutting taxes?
# Posted by Clyde | 10/1/08 5:08 PM
Thank you Dave for another dose of common sense. But, will common sense ever rule in Washington DC. Everybody needs to give their elected officials a dose of Dave's common sense and then maybe "We the people" can get control of our government again. We need a financial revolution in this country.

Besides Dave's common sense solution, we need to give the next president the line item veto to cut pork belly spending. And, again "We the people" can hold the next president accountable for his actions in office.
# Posted by Paul | 10/1/08 5:15 PM
I agree with the previous comment by Clyde:
"i like the first 2 bullet points but I don't understand what eliminating the capital gains tax will do to clean up this mess. Won't that just enable the wild-eyed gamblers to go crazy again?"

I'm not sure what eliminating capital gains taxes will do at this point. We have a huge deficit and we need all of the revenue we can get to service this debt. Cutting the cap gains tax now would probably not be a good idea.

The bottom line is that home prices need to fall back in line with incomes. We need to get back to requiring 20% down and a 36% (max) backend DTI to buy a home. The folks in Washington seem to think that falling home prices are the problem, when in fact that is the solution to this mess. Let the prices fall quickly instead of mucking around in the market and prolonging the agony for years.
# Posted by Phil | 10/1/08 5:19 PM
Dave, I just heard NPR talk about Mark to Market... I wish I had a strong feeling about it... but playing with accounting rules, so that no loss is declared isn't entirely honest -- globally. I think the confidence is gone, so I can follow the argument. The other suggestions, esp. CAPITAL GAINS... would only be, well, common sense. It will never happen with 50% of the population convinced that they are being ripped off by the other half -- That kind of negativity is completely unhelpful. But there are two world views in clash here -- "The government is here to help you, and wipe your bottom" and "The Government is something to be feared, May the Emperor live long, and stay far away..." Government is needed for restraining evil -- but it is now attacking our freedoms with these huge taxes that will destroy the value of the dollar in our global economy.

I also hear the stories that business can only run based on a line of credit -- once they sold stock, and sold items -- and yet they have a great, wonderful businesses... why can't a small business raise money by stock? It's got a thousand regulations... because some people will try to rip you off. But there are many businesses, include such folks as Dave Ramsey, and Chick-fil-a, who can rest on Sunday, and shockingly... stay in business. Practically, how did Microsoft make it for YEARS without debt, if it was so important to have credit... no, as my father-in-law says, Quality wins out.

Growth maybe slower, and the profits not as large, and fewer games played with our crazy tax code... but a line of credit isn't the only thing needed to be successful.
# Posted by Scott Clous | 10/1/08 5:21 PM
i wish everyone in america could have heard bernie sanders speech today,he nailed it.. dave we love you.    any way you could obtain  the speech for those who didnt get to hear and see it.what he had to say was completley amazing. i am curious as to why, not one network has aired his speech
# Posted by jack&jill | 10/1/08 5:24 PM
Dave, I just heard NPR talk about Mark to Market... I wish I had a strong feeling about it... but playing with accounting rules, so that no loss is declared isn't entirely honest -- globally. I think the confidence is gone, so I can follow the argument. The other suggestions, esp. CAPITAL GAINS... would only be, well, common sense. It will never happen with 50% of the population convinced that they are being ripped off by the other half -- That kind of negativity is completely unhelpful. But there are two world views in clash here -- "The government is here to help you, and wipe your bottom" and "The Government is something to be feared, May the Emperor live long, and stay far away..." Government is needed for restraining evil -- but it is now attacking our freedoms with these huge taxes that will destroy the value of the dollar in our global economy.

I also hear the stories that business can only run based on a line of credit -- once they sold stock, and sold items -- and yet they have a great, wonderful businesses... why can't a small business raise money by stock? It's got a thousand regulations... because some people will try to rip you off. But there are many businesses, include such folks as Dave Ramsey, and Chick-fil-a, who can rest on Sunday, and shockingly... stay in business. Practically, how did Microsoft make it for YEARS without debt, if it was so important to have credit... no, as my father-in-law says, Quality wins out.

Growth maybe slower, and the profits not as large, and fewer games played with our crazy tax code... but a line of credit isn't the only thing needed to be successful.
# Posted by Scott Clous | 10/1/08 5:29 PM
Congress should also enact a provision that the amount of the debt being forgiven should not be taxable.
# Posted by Gordon | 10/1/08 5:30 PM
We're told that the banks are refusing to lend even to each other (which probably tells you something about the "transparency" of their financial statements).

My question is what reason do we have to believe that, by pouring money and/or other government assurances into them, they will then proceed to open up the credit pipelines?
# Posted by margo | 10/1/08 5:37 PM
I emailed my Senators & Representative today.
Took about 40 minutes to send & I have cable
internet. Hope that means a lot of people are
sending the same message. Thanks Dave!
Carrie in Flower Mound Texas
# Posted by Carrie | 10/1/08 5:52 PM
Because I am reasonably conservative, I disagree with the proposal to elimainate the capital gains tax. This amounts to the government favoring one form of economic activity over others. Why should capital gains escape taxation, but not interest or dividend income?
# Posted by steve schmitt | 10/1/08 5:59 PM
It looks like the Senate is going to pass this pig of a bill.

We need to concentrate on the House again now.

What can we do if it passes in the House?

Some ideas:
* General Strike: shut the country down like they do in France
* Consumption Strike: buy only essentials and whenever possible buy used. No eating out. No coffee at Tarbucks.

Actually, the consumption strike helps those who are striking by enabling them to save more.

Other ideas?
# Posted by UncleO | 10/1/08 6:01 PM
"his amounts to the government favoring one form of economic activity over others. Why should capital gains escape taxation, but not interest or dividend income?"

Good point steve schmitt. If anything we need to encourage saving. I'd rather see no taxes on interest income for a few years in order to encourage saving.
# Posted by UncleO | 10/1/08 6:02 PM
Wow, a one-page, 398 word plan for getting out of the worldwide financial crisis! Fantastic! I am so glad someone forwarded this to me.
# Posted by Sam | 10/1/08 6:34 PM
I sent this letter to my representatives. Thing may get worse before they get better but maybe that will force people to tighten up their budgets and put back some money for a crisis like this.

People who have bad credit should not be able to get loans. That is what has put us in this situation and now congress is trying to pass this bill to free up credit. FREE Credit is the problem!!

If a person or business has bad credit they should not get a loan. If you can't come up with 20% down then rent and save your money. Don"t spend more money than you earn and save money every month. OUR GOVERNMENT AND THE PEOPLE ARE OVER EXTENDED !!!

That can't work over the long term. If you spend more than you have you go broke and hopefully you learn your lesson and don't do that again.

I make 35000 a year and my house is paid for in full I have 12 months money for an emergency fund in the bank and I fully fund my Roth every month. How did I do that? I pay cash . I Pay No interest to credit cards. I bought a house that I can afford put 20% down and paid extra every month. WATCH DAVE RAMSEY. PEOPLE GROW UP!!!

Vote For this wasteful spending bill and I don't vote for you.
# Posted by Adam | 10/1/08 6:41 PM
Insure mortgage backed securities and all will be well in the world. As many folks have pointed out, there are some problems with this, though it's not quite as brain dead as folks are making out.

1) To insure these things you have to know how likely they are to default. No one knows. It is doubtful anyone can know. If we did know, this problem would be much easier to solve.

2) For insurance to work you have to charge people what it's worth. If there's a 20% chance of default per year, the value has to be about 20% of what you'd pay out. Let's assume we could figure out what the default chance was and charged that amount. The people who need it most couldn't afford it, it would be too much. The reason they're in danger of going bankrupt is because the probability is too high.

3) The house is on fire already. In many cases, these things are already effectively in default, it's just that no one has said "uh, I don't think the emperor is wearing any clothes." This would be the equivalent of calling up the insurance company and saying "Hey, I'd like to buy homeowner insurance because my house is on fire." They'd laugh you off the line. If they did decide to insure you they'd say "how much would it cost to replace your house Mr. Smith? We'll charge you that much premium." In other words, there's no point.

4) What this means is that either the government doesn't charge them enough to afford to insure them, or it does. If it does, they can't afford it. If it doesn't, then the cost of the banks claiming their insurance payouts will be more than the cost of the premiums.

5) This means that the House bailout is actually the largest bailout suggested by anyone. What they're saying is "minus premiums, we will pay for every single bad mortgage backed security in the system." I guarantee that will run to trillions and trillions of dollars.


Now, the idea of insuring certain types of securities is not a bad one. But the current crop of mortgage backed securities are not a good candidate because they include such a high proportion of fraud and because they include a lot of exotic variations that make them too hard to value. If the government (or anyone else) is going to insure something it has to be simple enough to understand and relatively fraud proof. The current batch is neither. Insuring something like money market funds, on the other hand, would make sense.

On top of that, I understand these fools want to decrease the capital gains tax to zero, which as Think Progress points out is completely pointless (people aren't not investing because they are worried about taxation, they are not investing in these companies because they think they'll lose everything they put in.) Heck, private equity firms raised 323 billion this year, it isn't even that there isn't plenty of capital slopping around, it's just not interested in helping out insolvent financial institutions. The phrase "good money after bad" is probably going through a lot of investors minds.

And then there's the deregulation foolishness, the idea being to allow companies to keep securities on book at their "maturity price" rather than their "market price". Since most of those securities are not going to mature at those prices, which is why the market price is so low, this is the equivalent of saying "let's all just pretend that these securities are still good and that you're not bankrupt. lalalalala, if I plug my ears and close my eyes the big bad financial crisis will go away!"

It is also a version of how the Japanese crippled their economy for going on 20 years now, by keeping zombie assets on the books of zombie banks, which then shuffled along unable to lend enough money to get the economy going.

So yes, Republican bailout ideas. Stupid. Doesn't mean that what seems to be the current consensus Democratic plan is very good either, but at least it isn't brain dead.

(Oh, and in the meantime the House Republicans stopped a 56 billion dollar bill which would have extended food stamps, employment insurance and so on. Glad to see they have their priorities straight.)
# Posted by Thinkjustalittle | 10/1/08 6:53 PM
The scary thing about your idea Dave, is that makes PERFECT SENSE!!! The problem is that our "leaders" in Washington have no sense at all! Dave, you and people that think like you, for the good of the people, should run for office and straighten our political system up. No pork or earmarks, just good stuff for the folks!
# Posted by Craig Prager | 10/1/08 6:56 PM
The American answer to the current credit situation is to step back, look at the facts, and make a decision.

To preface, I own a business. I acquired an attractive line of credit this very day. My wife bought a car last week at 4.7525% interest. A Credit Card company enticed me to move one of my personal cards to them on Monday because of their lower interest rate (wait til they figure out I pay in full every month). You see, if you are responsible and pay your bills there is no shortage of credit.

The proposed bill being voted on this evening seems to protect the ability to make loans that make no sense from a business perspective... And to cover the behinds of those financial institutions that were stupid enough to participate in lending to those that had no business borrowing in the first place.

A large resounding NO should be what the Senate does this evening..
# Posted by scott medlock | 10/1/08 7:13 PM
If this bill passes, this country needs to stand up and have a revolution. They are going to spend the wealth of this country bailing out those who are irresponsible!!!!
# Posted by JT | 10/1/08 7:26 PM
When our Congress passes this bailout bill and it appears they will to help Wall street. I feel mainstream should demand that our Senators should give back their $9,000 raise which they gave themselves. I want all of America to vote all these Congressmen out of power and elect someone who listens to America. Finally, I want all of America to demand our Wall Street Congress to give up their medical benefits that mainstream pays for until we pay for this $700 billion dollar mistake. We all should sacrifice. haha..
# Posted by Robert Gillispie | 10/1/08 7:30 PM
Great info and idea. I've sent to my politicians in our state.
# Posted by ale | 10/1/08 7:38 PM
Dave, I sent "Common Sense Fix" to my Senators last night and could not get on line to send to my representative because so many people were emailing him. Not only do we need to straighten out the economy with "Common Sense Fix" but we need to replace the entire Congress including Ms. Nancy with people with "common Sense".

I would vote to put you, Donald Trump, Steve Forbes, Sean Hannity, Jack Welch and I would say Warren Buffet until I found out he was advisor to Obama in Congress and get rid of the $160,000 per person that sits in Congress now. I really believe you guys are American and we could probably save on salary by putting you in. For sure we would get real answers and a good return for our money. God Bless you and the others for putting this together. I just pray Congress will listen.
# Posted by Joan Phillips | 10/1/08 7:44 PM
forgot to mention. voting time is near. it's time to get the nOObs out of office that do not do the will of the people. Marylanders, this means getting the dems out of office in our dem controlled liberal state.

State of MD governor Martin Omalley just this year increased our taxes on everything.... it's killing the economy and the little people.... while the fat cats in government have plenty! They have OUR money. It's time for government to live on a budget like I have too. Raising taxes is no longer a valid way to fix their money shortfalls. The people are paying way too much now to live here.

Time to start analyzing the programs that are currently in place and cost money. If they no longer work, stop tossing money at it and CUT the program or service. Period. If something does not work, tossing more of MY money at it is not the answer.

Barbara Mikulski needs to go... Ben Cardin needs to go.. .and Steny Hoyer.
# Posted by Maryland sux | 10/1/08 7:47 PM
Thanks Dave, because of you, my husband and I are COMPLETELY DEBT FREE, including the house. We have emailed all our congressman, and we are concerned about all that is going on, but we have less worries than a lot of folks, thanks to you!
# Posted by Sheri | 10/1/08 7:48 PM
I don't agree with everything that everyone else has posted here, but I must say that I am profoundly proud of the American people. We don’t just buy into the latest reality t.v., fear factor approach to government. It may not calm the markets, but I was so glad that the House of Representatives rejected the nonsense Paulson bill, and they did it, largely, because they listened to their wise and experienced constituents. I have read posts from men and women involved in the insurance industry, small business owners, large business owners, professional and/or wannabe financial analysts, and just plain ol’ hard working moms and dads who aren’t buying into the one-size-fits-all, must-immediately-sign-on-the-dotted-line mentality that is being proposed by the arrogant elites who have suspiciously done nothing until a crisis became imminent.
# Posted by Melody | 10/1/08 7:51 PM
Well, the bailout just passed in the Senate folks.

Here's the tally:

Voted no: (NOTE: I'm missing one, not sure who)
Allard, Wayne
Brownback, Sam
Bunning, Jim
Cantwell, Maria
Cochran, Thad
Crapo, Mike
DeMint, Jim
Dole, Elizabeth
Dorgan, Byron
Enzi, Mike
Feingold, Russ
Inhofe, Jim
Johnson, Tim
Landrieu, Mary
Nelson, Bill
Roberts, Pat
Sanders, Bernie
Sessions, Jeff
Shelby, Richard
Stabenow, Debbie
Tester, Jon
Vitter, David
Wicker, Roger
Wyden, Ron


Voted yes:
Akaka, Daniel
Alexander, Lamar
Barrasso, John
Baucus, Max
Bayh, Evan
Bennett, Robert
Biden, Joe
Bingaman, Jeff
Bond, Kit
Boxer, Barbara
Brown, Sherrod
Burr, Richard
Byrd, Robert
Cardin, Ben
Carper, Tom
Casey, Bob, Jr.
Chambliss, Saxby
Clinton, Hillary Rodham
Coburn, Tom
Coleman, Norm
Collins, Susan
Conrad, Kent
Corker, Bob
Cornyn, John
Craig, Larry
Dodd, Chris
Domenici, Pete
Durbin, Dick
Ensign, John
Feinstein, Dianne
Graham, Lindsey
Harkin, Tom
Hatch, Orrin
Hutchison, Kay Bailey
Inouye, Daniel
Isakson, Johnny
Kerry, John
Klobuchar, Amy
Kohl, Herb
Kyl, Jon
Lautenberg, Frank
Leahy, Patrick
Levin, Carl
Lieberman, Joe
Lincoln, Blanche
Lugar, Dick
Martinez, Mel
McCain, John
McCaskill, Claire
McConnell, Mitch
Menendez, Bob
Mikulski, Barbara
Murkowski, Lisa
Murray, Patty
Nelson, Ben
Obama, Barack
Pryor, Mark
Reed, Jack
Reid, Harry
Rockefeller, Jay
Salazar, Ken
Schumer, Chuck
Smith, Gordon
Snowe, Olympia
Specter, Arlen
Stevens, Ted
Sununu, John E.
Thune, John
Voinovich, George
Warner, John
Webb, Jim
Whitehouse, Sheldon

Not voting, or I missed their vote:
Grassley, Chuck
Kennedy, Ted
Gregg, Judd
Hagel, Chuck

You know what to do.
# Posted by UncleO | 10/1/08 8:28 PM
Well the senate not only was not listening but
added a bunch of junk on to seeten the pot.
Typical Washington
# Posted by Lynne | 10/1/08 8:34 PM
Since McCain and Obama both voted yes We have a
problem I guess we need a write in...Maybe we
should vote for Hank Paulsen He seems to have
all of the answers.
# Posted by Lynne | 10/1/08 8:53 PM
Would it be possible for the economists in D.C. to "re-write" the housing price graph so it trends upward more steadily? In other words, figure out where the start and end of the
anomalous peak in home prices was and then allow people to have their mortgages rewritten for some reasonable percentage lower. This could prevent imminent foreclosures. This could also
prevent those foreclosures not seen coming down the line with the current state of affairs. Also, for the people who bought during that peak who are faring fine with their payments,
well hey, they'd have extra money every month to spend in our economy. That would be like myself, and I'd feel like I got a more fare deal -- not just bailing someone else out. The
lenders would take the losses from this type of plan, but could the losses be as bad as what's happening now? Overall, what I see, is that housing prices inclined way faster than
salaries did, and those two graphs should rate upward similarly given our homes eat up the bulk of our incomes. I'm not an economist, but I feel if we have any kind of "bailout", it
should be one that takes us back in time a little and trends those graphs properly and helps the people in this country who apparently were drawn into a crazy market created by the
big companies, or we won't really stabilize for quite a long time.
# Posted by Heidi | 10/1/08 9:14 PM
FINALLY someone with common sense!! Thank you, Dave for your words of wisdom. Ever thought of running for President?
You would have my vote!
# Posted by Suzie | 10/1/08 9:21 PM
Can someone please explain why do we have to have (RIGHT NOW) politicians fix our economy? Can’t we see that since it’s so close to election that it’s all used to earn Brownie points. Wouldn’t it be better to get together financial economists who are not politicians to figure this stuff out?
# Posted by Karl | 10/1/08 9:27 PM
Dave,
Thanks for everything. On your home page, you have a link to a list of how representatives voted on the bailout plan. Can you put one up for the Senators that just passed that garbage?
# Posted by Auburn Thompson | 10/1/08 9:34 PM
I agree the bailout has many risks and is a horrible idea. However, banks not having money to loan and grow is a real problem. There are several healthy banks still alive in America, however you can see the concern/fear in the eyes of those closest to the playing field. Instilling fear into the minds of Americans is a risky business in the financial world. In that aspect, I believe we might not have the entire story of how bad it really is. I believe a step-by-step or payment type system should be adopted. If the first payment is not helping, then stop the remaining payments. Perhaps, a combination of what Dave speaks of and a tax payer bailout. Nevertheless, I sent this to my representatives in the House and Senate, although I just learned that my state Senators all voted YEA!
# Posted by TJ | 10/1/08 9:55 PM
www.drudgereport.com had a list of how everyone voted.
# Posted by Amy | 10/1/08 9:55 PM
I support your attempt at suggesting policy solutions, Dave. But common sense can't solve this problem.

1. Foreclosures are the problem that lead to banks' diminshing asset balances (and subsequent FDIC seizure). Fixing the deliquent mortgage rates to 6% won't help decrease foreclosures, especially if the teaser rates were reset upwards to somewhere around 6%.

2. Changes in accounting rules don't solve the foreclosure problem.

3. Eliminating the capital gains tax completely doesn't cost "nothing". It lowers the amount of money that the government collects - thus increasing government debt. Guess who gets to pay that increased debt back later?
# Posted by Mike B. | 10/1/08 10:10 PM
I'd support this plan and sent the information to my Senators.
# Posted by Ruth | 10/1/08 10:23 PM
Dave, great plan. I would like to add my "earmark". We should eliminate the income tax on the first $30,000 every american makes.
No more stimulus checks backed by asian banks. I run a mahcine shop with 21 employees of which 17 of them makes less than $30,000.
These people spend all of their take home income trying to get thru life. It would be the right thing to let them use their gross
income. The government will get their money thru sales tax.
# Posted by jeff howell | 10/1/08 10:26 PM
Dave,
Looks as if the senators and representatives got scared and voted the way that they wanted, and not the way the people wanted them to vote. Take for Example McCaskill, "stated that the bill was a lousy bill, but she had to vote for it" That is the most absurd thing that I have every heard. Once again for sharing your information about this topic in a way that everyday individuals can understand it. Since the passed bill, I have written the senators and representatives again, and told them not to forget my shareholder check every month, you can bet your sweet _____, that I won't be counting on that check. And the senators and representatives that voted yes on the bill, can for sure kiss their Sweet ______, by counting on being voted out of office.


Missouri
# Posted by Vince | 10/1/08 10:27 PM
I wish you would tell us to write in "Dave Ramsey."
You would have my vote.

Thanks for all you do Dave.
# Posted by Jim | 10/1/08 10:44 PM
Dave, I contacted my senators and representative. I hope and PRAY that they will listen to the people that sent them to speak for us! Thank you for being the voice of reason.
# Posted by Becky | 10/1/08 10:54 PM
So much for a representitive government. Wasnt their a revolution fought because people did not want taxation without representation. Well at least we know which politicians have been bought and paid for by the power brokers on Wall Street. Vote the bums out. BTW McCain has just lost the election. so much for the maverick talk. So much for his leadership [or lack of]. Dont ever forget this. Our country has been destroyed by the politicians. Hyperinflation here we come. The dollar is toast, bet we see five dollar a gallon gas before Christmas because of the dollar destruction this bailout will cause
# Posted by janet | 10/1/08 11:04 PM
Dave is right, prayer and wisdom are the answer. However, I do not believe that turning toxic waste investments inot government insured investments will create the liquidity missing from the economy. Insuring investments through derivatives is what swamped AIG for 85 billion. The answer, sadly, is to inject dollars that can be reinvested in loans to business. Call your local banker and ask how easy it is to get a small business loan.
# Posted by Larry Duncan | 10/1/08 11:38 PM
Dave,
Your three steps make perfect sense but it is hard to quantify results, Will it be enough in time? How about adding a 4th measure. Sell government bonds (like war bonds) to cover the need for immediate liquidity at say 6%. I think Americians would think it was patriotic to invest in a fix to the mess we have and they would be rewarded by a reasonable return. This way the necessary funds come from all of us rather than eventually being paid for by printing money which has led to the ruin of numerous countries. Tell me that the government wont be forced to print huge piles of money money to cover the $700B.
# Posted by gerry gerhardt | 10/1/08 11:49 PM
I agree with your "Common Sense Fix". I would add two other items to your list.

1. Allow a person to withdraw from their retirement accounts to pay off a mortgage or to by a house (must be their primary and only home). The withdrawals would be tax free with no penalties.

2. Reduce the corporate income tax to zero. This would make the United States the corporate tax haven of the world. You would not have enough people to fill all the jobs.
# Posted by Steve1776 | 10/2/08 12:11 AM
I find it very interesting that every comment agrees with your plan. I think Mr Paulson and Benanke may know more about the current economy than you do.

You have a lot of power I think you should pray that your advise is correct.
# Posted by George Determann | 10/2/08 12:31 AM
I don't like this bail-out. Why would I give more money to someone who has already wasted money I have already given them. It seems that the people who were suppose to protect