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The Money Tamer

QUESTION: Patty in Cincinnati is having issues with budgeting. Her husband is in construction, so their income is varied. She doesn't know how to plan for this variable income. Dave explains how to handle an irregular income.

ANSWER: I suggest you make a list of what you would put into a budget, which you already have—you've got that list—and it's what we need to spend on food. It's what our lights and water are going to be this month. It's what our rent or house payment is this month. Make a list of everything you need to spend money on or want to spend money on with a dollar amount beside it. Then you look at that list with your husband and you say, "If you have a horrible month and we only make enough to do one thing, what would we do?" And you put a "1" beside that. I'll help you with that. That one's food. If you only make enough to do one more thing past food—we can't do anything on this list but two things—what's the second thing we're going to do? I'll help you with that. It's utilities—lights and water. You keep asking that question, and the next time you ask it, it'll be pay your rent or your house payment.

We've got food, shelter, clothing, transportation. You take care of basic necessities first at a base level—nothing fancy. Then you keep going down the list from there and say, "Well, if we make enough to do one more thing, what would we do?" You keep putting a number beside it. Then you rewrite that list in order of number one through whatever—the most important thing to the least important thing.

You could do the budget every week if you wanted to, but certainly at the first of the month, what you're going to do is make that list down the page. When the money comes in, you're going to go as far down the page as you can go. If you paid the house payment, you can just mark through that one and pick up next week where the other one left off. You might have to break your food budget into four different items on there or start every week with food before you do anything else or something like that, but the idea being that you have a prioritized spending plan, and as much money as you make, you go down the page as far as the money goes until it runs out.

Sharon and I lived on that plan forever—for a decade—until we got our income stabilized to where we had enough income coming in every month no matter what to pay our bills. What happens is you could go down the page and the money runs out before the list runs out. It needs to run out. The list needs to be longer than the money. No matter what you make, every dollar has a name.

It's fine that you haven't saved anything the last four months because his income's struggling right now. That's what that means. If you didn't save anything because you went on a cruise, then we've got a problem. You've got your priorities wrong. But if you didn't save anything because you kept food on the table and lights and water were paid and you kept the rent paid, then you shouldn't save anything. You should take care of necessities first. Then you'll get to the other things.

I think what you need to do more than anything is be more organized and prioritized like I'm talking about, and you were attempting to do that with the Gazelle Budget. Congratulations for attempting, but I'm with you. That'll drive you nuts the way you were trying to do it. I agree with you.

I'm going to send you a copy of the book The Total Money Makeover. Remember, it's got the budget forms in the back of the book, and one of the forms is the irregular income planning form. It'll walk you through again what we just talked about in case you forget what we just covered. It'll get you set up and get you going.

You've got to do two things for this to work. He's got to be involved and agree with you on the spending and go along with it or have a vote in it—that kind of thing. The second thing is you've got to get a little bit more organized and very purposeful. No money is spent—period—except what's on that paper. If you left something off, you've got to rewrite the paper and prioritize it again. You have to start from scratch to do that. The irregular income planning sheet in the budget forms. For those of you that have been through Financial Peace University, you've got the sheets. Those of you that have a Total Money Makeover or Financial Peace book, you've got the budgeting forms. They're always in the back of those books, and you're set up to win with that. You're set up to be able to put together a game plan.

Let me just tell you money will leave and go to other people if you don't manage it. Money leaves those who do not manage it, and it goes to someone else. You do not get to keep money if you don't manage it. It leaves. It moves away from people who don't manage it and toward people who do. The budget is the way you manage it. It's the whip and the chair. It's the money tamer. You're making the money behave.

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She Doesn't Want a Budget

QUESTION: Clark in Utah says his wife doesn't want to do a budget. She says she'll spend more if she has a budget to follow. Dave thinks her statement is ridiculous.

ANSWER: It sounds like you really had your act together with money prior to your injury. You were really winning. Honestly—I don't want to be mean or anything—but her statement is absolutely ridiculous. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If I have money in the budget, that automatically means I'm going to spend it. Translation: I'm trying to come up with something that makes no sense because I don't want to do a budget. That's really what this comes down to. That's just ridiculous. That's a silly statement. You don't need to tell her I said that. That'll just make her mad. But really, it's ridiculous.

What do you do in this situation? I think you've got to say, hey, I've been doing this a long time, and it's been working. I'm going to do a written budget for our household, and I'd like you to go over it with me and I trust you to be grown up enough to not necessarily put money in a category that's in excess of what we need. If we have too much allocated for food and we have money left in our food category every single month, we'll just lower the category.

She acts like she's not got control over herself. Of course she's got control over herself if she chooses to have control over herself.

You're much better off to have a plan so that you're systematically being a giver, a saver, and the spending that you do then doesn't cause stress because you know where the money's going. The written plan has to happen for people who are going to win. There are five things people must do with money. If they do those things with money over 15 to 20 years while working and earning an income, they will win with money. You will build wealth. One of them is a written plan, and for those of us that are married, the written plan is an agreement with our spouse every month before the month begins.

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Today's Necessities

QUESTION: Matthew on Twitter asks Dave to define necessities on a budget in today's world. Dave says necessities haven't changed.

ANSWER: Today's world hasn't changed any of it. Necessities are food, shelter, clothing, transportation and utilities. Food (and that's not eating out), shelter (and that's nothing fancy), and clothing (you probably have enough in your closet. Shut up!). These are your necessities. They're needs versus wants. Transportation—you got a bike? Or get you a hoopty if you can save up $500 or $1,000 to get started, keeping the brakes and the license and the insurance on it and gas in it. That's transportation. Food, shelter, clothing, transportation and utilities. That's paying your light bill. That's not a $600 cable package because I have to have the NBA, NFL, super-double-triple twist sports package. You can get those things if you want them, but those are not needs. They're wants.

Go back to ninth-grade civics class. In ninth grade, they teach you civics, and these are food, shelter, clothing, transportation and utilities. Those are necessities. Everything else is a want. There are some very important wants. I want you to have life insurance on your family. I want you to have a will. I want you to have health insurance. I want you to have some other things, and you want to have some other things—a nicer car, a nicer house, some nicer clothes, the luxury of being able to eat out sometimes. But those are wants. They are not needs.

Very few Americans—a small percentage—struggle with needs. There are a lot of things we want that we can't do, but there are very few of you that struggle with your basic needs. Yes, there are a few hungry people, but they're such a low percentage in this culture that most of you have nothing to whine about. Now it's just about wants. There's nothing wrong with acquiring some wants, but you need to define them correctly.

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