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Where there's a will ...

Question: Ron's mom owns a piece of commercial property worth $300,000 and a townhouse worth $200,000, all paid for. The deal he has worked with his sister gives him the property and gives her the townhouse, but he doesn't trust her. Dave thinks a last will and testament is in order, and VERY soon.

Dave Ramsey's advice: Have her get a will IMMEDIATELY! It matters a lot to have a will. If your sister wants to contest this agreement in court when there's a will, then go ahead and fight. If you don't trust your sister, then this is a disaster waiting for a place to happen. Your mom should get a will now; not so you can get what you want, but so she can get what she wants. A will ensures that her wishes are carried out, even if she thinks that your sister wouldn't try anything bad. Do that THIS WEEK!


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Dave,
What are your thought on Revocable Trusts, etc. as a way to protect an estate against probate, heavy death taxes to beneficiaries? Also at what asset level do you recommend a trust or other plan? What if you will have a home, life insurance "death" payment etc. 401K, IRA's, BUT NO major real estate or other holdings?
# Posted by Mark Richardson | 11/16/07 3:40 PM
i know we need a will,not that we have alot of
assets but we have 2 children. Question is who
do we leave them to if my wife and I both die??
seems everyone considered has positives and
negitives. how do you decide?
# Posted by aaron | 11/25/07 10:52 AM
My husband and I have had a disagreement about if the our our last will and testament. We have been married for about 6 years. Neithier of us had "much" much much to start with. I have two girls 18 and 14 from a previous marriage (18 and 14), and right now we ar are doing very well, have some assets, several businesses and my husband thinks that if we were to died at the same time (God forbid), that my girls could have my half of our assets, but his half he wants to go to his mother and sister. I just have a hard time agreeeing to that... someone please tell me this is the way it should be, help me to understand... Thanks. Desperate! We really need a Will, and I can't get past this for some reason.
# Posted by Jennifer | 1/8/08 9:57 AM
Jennifer,
It seems to me that you and your husband need to come to terms on what the will is FOR. Basically, I think a will is for people to support people who NEED support. If you are currently paying for some part of his mother and sister's basic needs, fine; otherwise, they don't qualify for that yet. Parents must ensure their children have the resources to get a good start in their adult lives even if the parents die before the kids get there. (To me, that happens around age 26 or so, when most people have finished 4-6 years of post-high school education and have gotten settled into a solid job. Those who don't go to college or the military still need that kind of help into their mid-20s because they have to work up from entry-level wages that would hardly sustain them. Just my view, worth the paper it's written on!)

You might set up the will to have two options. Option 1 is in force until your children reach a designated age that you both agree on. Option 1 ensures that your estate fully supports your children as if neither of you had died. Include statements setting aside a few items that have special meaning (say, your husband wants his grandma's piano to go immediately to his sister whenever he dies). Then, Option 2 says "If the children are past X, then we want the estate distributed as follows..." and if he wants his mother and sister to get half, so be it. You should both be aware: if either of them is in a nursing home type of situation, it could be very messy for them to get significant assets after their own resources have been drained in our crazy system. Get with someone with lots of knowledge in both estate planning and the long-term care system, so that if you do die early, your will creates blessings for his mother and sister, rather than problems.
# Posted by Monica | 1/23/08 4:57 PM
I have a will, got it notarized....What do I do with it now so that if/when my spouse and I die, our last wish it granted. Do we just give copies of it to the person we put at the executor and the trustee?
# Posted by Jason Heinen | 2/6/08 9:06 AM
Do you have it witnessed by two witnesses and a self proving affidavit attached? This will make it much easier to probate. Keep the originals in a safe place and make sure that the executors know where it is.
# Posted by Jennifer Goss | 2/7/08 2:37 PM
I have almost completed the wills for my husband & I, but I am also having a problem deciding who to leave my children to. Also, who to leave incharge of their trust. My question is if I only have life insurance, & home, and vehicles, do I just instruct that a trust be setup & fund for them upon our death? Or should I being doing something now.
# Posted by Rachel Davis | 3/5/08 4:16 PM
When is it better to have a trust instead of
just a will like you advertise from
uslegalforms.com?
# Posted by Velma | 3/15/08 6:27 PM
My husband passed away leaving a will (all is left to me). Everything we own is paid for except our house. Is it necessary to go through probate?
# Posted by Leslie | 3/15/08 7:14 PM
Dave,

I do not have alot of assets or liabilities but I want something in writing for what I do have in case something happens to me. Where should I go to get a will oniline?
# Posted by Ryan | 3/17/08 4:41 PM
I just read a good book called "Beyond the Grave", how to leave money to your children. It is written by a West Coast lawyer named Gerry
Condon. You can get it from Amazon for $16. He covers almost all these questions, based on many years experience. There are many, many
wrong ways to leave money to children, or anyone else for that matter. I highly recommend this book. You will find that a visit to a
good estate planning lawyer is something you'll need at some point in the future. It will be worth the money (to your kids, anyway).
To Jennifer...your husband is making it clear they are YOUR kids, not his. He can't be faulted for wanting to leave his part to his immediate
family, but I'm sure it still hurts. You definitely need to set things up right to protect your kids. It seems to me from reading the book
that the simplest way is to create a Family Living Trust and put all the assets you want your kids to have into that trust, naming them as
beneficiaries and appointing a bank's trust dept to oversee it for them if they are still minors when you die.
I intend to do this with my family, even though we don't have all that much. The trust avoids probate and contestability and assures your
kids' needs are taken care of.
Just my 2 cents worth (I am NOT a lawyer).
Peace
# Posted by Mike Henderson | 3/18/08 1:38 PM
My father is 81. I have 2 sisters. One has lost her home in a short sale and moved in with Dad. She borrowed from him until he had nothing left in order for her to pay for a house she could not afford. Now with her and her husband and two teenage kids living with him, one of whom is pregnant and her boyfriend often stays as well, she states that she has no intention of moving, that she wants to buy myself and my other sister out when Dad passes at two-thirds value less 'improvements' she has made. She has Power of Attorney. We are all three listed as Co-Executors of his Living Will. My other sister is in a panic over this and wants me to have Power of Attorney. I am fine with that, I just don't want to cause a feud, but at the same time, I am concerned that she will screw us and feud now or later really makes no difference except that it will prevent financial problems in the short term. A am expecially concerned that she will convince him to get loans, and or use the Power of Attorney to act on my fathers part and cause a financial ruin for him. What are your thoughts?
# Posted by Martie | 3/21/08 2:20 PM
My mom passed away last month and she did have a will. I just found out that one of my sisters, the greedy one, talked mom into changing her will a few years ago right after our dad died. There are 4 of use and this sister is named as inheriting the majority of our parent’s assets of over $2,000,000. The previous will had all assets divided equal among the 4 of us as mom and dad had wished from the start. I know biblically what will happen to this sister.

Should I do anything about it in the mean time as I feel this was done in mom’s time of duress?
# Posted by David | 4/18/08 6:23 PM
Leslie:
If you own a home, you need to probate the will as a Muniment of title. If you ever decide to sell the house, this will make the sale go smoother.
I had to probate my mom's will (she passed away
first and all went to Dad) AFTER my dad died to be able to sell the house.
# Posted by Kathy | 7/31/08 11:04 AM
Life's lesson--My brother-in-law passed away without a will, so the county probate judge advised my sister
to hire a lawyer to settle the estate(used car business, body shop, and cattle farm. My sisters cost app.
$100.00. My father passed away one year later. He had a will leaving everything to my mother ( two tracks
of land and the homeplace). Lawyer charged $3400.00 A few years later my mother passed away, she had a
will that left everything to the four children. The same lawyer that did Dad's will executed Mothers will
charged $3700.00. A few weeks ago, I was advised by tax office that we were in violation of land use law.
Same lawyer charged me $400.00 and could not produce proper plats so did quitclaim deeds. More bills soon
to come. In GA, wills are just another way for lawyers to steal more money. Wills are not the best for
every situation. In my 30 plus years of dealing with lawyers, I am yet to meet an honest one.
# Posted by james moore | 8/25/08 10:22 AM
My father-in-law passed away a year ago. He thankfully had a will, which was probated through the lawyer who drafted his will. Cost around 1500.00. House was put into the 3 daughters names, his will was set up to allow the one daughter who lived with him to contitune to stay in the house, she must pay all utilities, taxes, and upkeep. I was the excutor of the will and extemely grateful that he had the foresight to do a will. There was hard feelings with the will and without it the family fighting would have been quite worse. When people say that their family wouldn't fight don't believe it MONEY CHANGES EVERYTHING.
# Posted by Mike | 8/25/08 12:46 PM
My husband's mother and father died within 6 months 6 6 six months of each other leaving the proper paperwork and my husband as sole heir. While I got hold of several books like "the cheapest family in America" and started to listen to Dave Ramsey. Their posessions are simple and not nearly as fancy, but we will own them outright and not have any debt, except 3k of a student loan that will be paid off by Christmas. Thank you all for turning our attitudes about debt around. We had to move inland from Florida, but seem to have gotten out right before the bust. Now we are putting away several thousand dollars a month, and have gotten on e-mealz to reduce our largest expense down to 1/3 of what it was. We gave up credit cards over 13 years ago and never looked back. My husband works from home and I don't work, and never have to be on anyone's clock for the rest of my life.. He's even been able to start a small business that has been his passion for 20 years. By living frugally for a long time we were able to relocate taking care of them in their final months of life. Even though we are just normal people, I encourage everyone that there is life after financial hardship, and medical disasters. Even though it took us 20 years we grew up and out of the "I want it all" life and now we have true financial peace.
# Posted by Jan | 9/11/08 9:46 PM
Dave advertises living wills, which puzzles me because I thought he would know how living wills, in many states, = permission to kill. You can get a free will to live (which specifically protects your life when you cannot speak for yourself), at http://www.nrlc.org/euthanasia/willtolive/index.html
# Posted by Ulysses | 9/25/08 2:02 PM
If a beneficiary deed could be filed on each of the properties, they would belong to the person intended without a will.
# Posted by Laurie | 10/1/08 8:00 PM
You advertise the combo special at www.uslegalforms.com/dave
Is this sufficient in itself, or do I still need to go to an attorney/lawyer and get a $1000+ will?
My wife and my financial advisor are hounding me to get a will ASAP and I would rather spend $28 as opposed to $1000 - $3000 as quoted.

Please advise!
# Posted by David (from Seattle) | 10/6/08 4:21 PM
Living Trust vs basic will? I enjoy the idea of transferring property directly to my family upon death, and avoiding the probation costs thru a normal will. What are the cons for Living Trusts with simple arrangement of assets family?

Regards,
Wayne Dennis
# Posted by Wayne | 12/2/08 11:05 AM
Hi,
My good friend recently passed away. His wife of 15 years is named as the beneficiary of his life insurance and 401-K but they never got around to updating his will. After his first divorce, he made up a simple will naming his two daughters to collect his assets upon death. Of course, this will was written up before he remarried. Does his daughters have a say in any of his assets (home, autos, etc.?). He and his wife live(d0 in New Jersey.

Please advise. Thank you so much!
# Posted by Tom Ennis | 12/23/08 4:45 PM
Everything is in my husband's name. He does
not have a will or living trust. What happens
if he were to pass away unexpectedly (accident
illness, etc.)? We have been married for 6
years and he refuses to change things over with
my name or get a will.
Thanks for you comments on this matter.
# Posted by Rose Sigler | 1/14/09 10:52 AM
My Mother has land that she wants to put into her 6 kids' names so in the event she has to go into a Nursing Home, within the next 5 years, they won't get it. Can she sell each of us our portion by self-financing the loan (approx. $10,000 each) and then "forgiving" or "gifting" that amount to each of us? That way no money changes hands as per her wishes. Its approximately 33.5 acres of farm land with her homestead on it. 5 acres first and foremost goes to one sibling, then the reaminding 28.5 acres is to be divided between all 6 kids. Thanks for the guidance.
# Posted by Mary | 1/15/09 2:10 PM
My boyfriend passed away suddenly and he was still married
to his wife of 25 yrs. But they had been seperated for about 4
yrs when he died. She had signed a quit claim deed to the
property that he had originally put in the will for her to
recieve at his death. But he had told several people that he did
not want her to have anything if something happened to him. He
thought that by her signing the quit claim deed that took care of
of the will. What should I do. Also just a couple of days after
his funeral she managed to go to probate court and they turned
everything over to her that day. I thought that the reason for
probate is to give the people that he owed money too a chance to
speak up and recieve what was owed to them from him. But that
did not happen either. I live in Georgia.
Also I have a friend that her dad just died. He had a will and
had left everything for them to split. 2 sisters. The mother was
already deceaced, but the sister that was to be executor of the
esate want do anything to try to settle the house or cars or truck
or anything. They both got about $60,000 a piece in cash. And the
executor is spending hers on pills and junk. The other sister
was living in the house taking care of her dad before his death.
She is wanting to keep the house but she can't get her sister to
do anything to get these things into their names or settle the
estate. What should she do?
# Posted by KATHY DAVENPORT | 2/10/09 6:39 AM
I am 70 years old and have a small RLT into which oil royalties come on a monthly basis. I am concerrned about the current economic crisis and am concerned the dollar is going to be highly devalued with the current spending the government is doing. I don't want the money I leave to my children to be worth 10 cents on the dollar. Should I put these funds into gold? If so where do I purchase it? Coin? Do they actually send me the gold and where is a safe place to keep it?
# Posted by Dianne | 2/14/09 8:32 AM
My elderly parents do not have any sort of will as far as I know and my father is going down quickly with Parkinsons. Any suggestions on how to approach the subject with them? Dad is not the easiest person to deal with. Thanks.
# Posted by Loretta | 5/28/09 10:17 PM
Finally after years of putting it off we finally are doing a will. We're expecting our first kid so I thought now would be a good time.
# Posted by Travis | 6/20/09 12:04 PM
My husband and I cannot agree on terms of will. I have 1 child from a previous marriage and he has 2. I think my son should recieve 1/2 and his children should split the other half. In the eyes of the law if we were to divovorce half would be mine and half his, essentially making the split as I think it should be. Any thoughts to make me look at this differently?
# Posted by melanie | 8/12/09 8:52 PM
As I was reading about WILLS, it seemes that it is difficult for some people in blended marriages (where both have kids from a previous marriage) to make a will.
When my husband and I married we knew that we both came in a packaged deal.
(I had 2 grown boys and 1 son still at home- my husband a daughter, who lived with her mother) When we got married they became "OUR" children. (Not "mine" and "yours" but "OURS") All 4 kids are grown now and no longer living at home, we have even been blessed with some grandkids! This is what we did: If I die first, everything goes to my Husband, when he dies everyting is split 4 ways to "our" kids, and vis versa should he die first. Sounds simple, we both worked hard to care for each other and our kids.
# Posted by Trudy Wells | 8/26/09 10:22 AM